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• 2012 "The Year Of the Aquarius"???:   Gideon - 1/25/2012 2:23:27 PM
  Good day, many of us know that there are many secret societies existing in the world today. Some of the secret societies that govern the world through the Devil are the Illuminaties, The Free Masons, The Rothchild's, Hell Fire Counsel, Skull and Bones, etc. It is very important that as Christians that we "Watch and Pray" as Christ instructed, according to Luke 21:36 "Watch ye therefore, and pray always, that ye may be accounted worthy to escape all these things that shall come to pass, and to stand before the Son of man." These societies are HIGHLY influential in today's society. Christians are called to be a "peculiar people, a holy nation and a royal priesthood". We are to be in the world, but NOT OF THE WORLD. Movies, music, music videos, technology, etc. are all influenced by these societies. When you have a chance, search for "Maitreya" and please share with me some of the views that you may have. It's VERY interesting to see the kind of things the world is doing and how close
  
  

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• The Rich Young Man- Was he rich or "rich":   Bro Bimark  - 11/11/2011 6:45:19 AM
  In the book of Mark 10.17-31, we learn about a rich young man who wanted to inherit eternal life. He kept 10 commandments but still not qualified. In reply, he was told to "go, sell ALL that you have and give to the poor, and you will have treasure in heaven; and come, follow me." Were these possessions literal? What about us, must we sell ALL our possession to inherit the kingdom? Bear in mind, this MUST be applicable to us too. What are these possession? Again, how is wealth measured for you to qualify as rich? Are we rich or 'rich' or both? Thank you.
  
  

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• Current Church World Headquarters:   Bro Bimark  - 10/24/2011 3:43:43 AM
  Can someone tell me where our current church world headquarters is based at? Thanks to everyone.
  
  
  • Re: Current Church World Headquarters:  Bro Bimark  - 11/10/2011 5:47:03 AM
    Thanks to you all. Am a bit anxious and rather worried on what Pr Faith has posted by use of Jagrup. I don't know what he meant whether his answer aimed at somebody. This has shown by the reply by Gideon hence made me want to know the hidden agenda or rather 'cold-war' between him and someone else. It's clear well that as brethren and again in the house of our Lord, there is nothing to be taken for granted. My question now goes to Pr. Faith, what did u meant by your answer on church world HQ? Thanks.
    
    
  • Re: Current Church World Headquarters:  Gideon - 11/9/2011 2:56:39 PM
    Good day bro. Bimark, the Church of God 7th Day maybe known by other names. However, the church we attend is headed by Pastor Michael Jules who is the general overseer of the Caribbean Conference.
    
    

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• Wedding Ring:   Bimark Kiplangat - 10/14/2011 12:24:23 PM
  Is wedding ring really biblical? I don't think so. What about hair weaving?
  
  
  • Re: Wedding Ring:  Ellis - 10/29/2011 1:10:11 PM
    Bro Bimark, greetings in the name of our Savior, Jesus Christ. You pose 2 very good (but touchy) questions. The wedding ring has no biblical origin, but came about thru different rituals, especially dating back to Ancient Egypt. It was actually Pope Gregory in 860 AD who declared Christians should use a ring to symbolize marriage. Now, some of our churches allow it, because the ring does represent God's sacred institution of marriage, but I personally don’t wear one because of the origins behind it. Two websites you can refer to for more info: jesus-messiah.com/html/wedding_rings.html or weddingringorigins.com. Another touchy subject is wearing hair weave. My answer would be NO, and in this matter, I let my conscience be my guide. There is not a clear answer in the scriptures regarding this, but I say, abide by whatever stance your church may have on this subject. God Bless!
    
    
    • Re: Wedding Ring:  Bro Bimark  - 11/10/2011 5:38:25 AM
      Thank you very much Ellis. You are right, however, we should do a thorough research on this and NOT always go by a stance of certain church.
      
      

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• Dress code:   Bro Bimark  - 10/18/2011 6:58:07 AM
  Let me take this opportunity to clear sis Love's question on dressing on women. Refer Archives- LOVE. The bible clearly mentioned dressing MODESTY. In this case, it's not forbidden in some instances i.e Physical teacher in training field, a technician woman climbing ladders say electric poles etc to wear two legged cloth. The main thing here is, how modesty, have you dressed? At many occasion, you find ladies wearing awkward skirts! JUST IMAGINE and it's a SKIRT! what we need here is a modest dress period. Do not be afraid, in occasions where trouser is necessary, use it!. Your say?
  
  

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• Who or what are Saints?:   Pastor Faith - 10/12/2011 9:32:03 AM
  I understand why many people struggle to understand the concept of Saints That’s because COG7thday and many other law doctrinal compatible religions; although they profess to teach Christ; in practice, they are servants of the Law. But we all know that the Law was only Like a School Master to Lead us to Faith> see Gal. 3:24,> and now that Faith has come; are we still obligated & subjected under the Law? According to Gal.3:25 No!!! [Part 1of 6]
  
  
  • Re: Who or what are Saints?:  Bimark Kiplangat - 10/17/2011 10:34:00 AM
    Thanks Pr. Faith. Now Christ Himself talked in Matt 5:17 that He didn't come to destroy THE LAW or the prophets but to fulfill them. How did He fulfilled these Law and again what were these law? He talked of the commandment which He ever asked a rich young man i.e 5th, 6th and even 7th commandment. That Law(commandments) is still there and we walk by them but the law Paul talks about are those found in Leviticus 23.
    
    
    • Re: Who or what are Saints?:  Pastor Faith - 10/17/2011 5:37:13 PM
      Bro. Bimark Kiplangat I welcome your contribution; however the New ‘Test /Covenant does not advocate such teachings. I am aware of Matt.5:17> but that text does not indicate that we are under the Law. Christ simply made the point that if he did not come; all that the prophets prophesied would have been a lie. So his coming brought the Law to its fullness or fulfilment. Which is exactly what Paul is saying in Gal.24 & 25> Now that Christ is come we are no more under the Law/ School Master; he in us, has become the substitution. The bible is consistent. Part 1 of 3
      
      
    • Re: Who or what are Saints?:  Pastor Faith - 10/17/2011 5:36:29 PM
      Part 2 >Again, you made a good observation about the rich young man> Christ used that profound example to explain why the Law as it stood had no legitimacy. The point of the exercise was not to conclude that we are to keep the Law; but rather, so that Christ would establish that He (Jesus) was the New Law or authority. By commanding the young Man to sell all that he had; Christ demonstrated that his word was now the new gate way to salvation. If it was not so, then that young man would have obtained salvation; because all his years he Lived and breathed all Laws perfectly. Regardless whether he was rich or poor.
      
      
    • Re: Who or what are Saints?:  Pastor Faith - 10/17/2011 5:34:33 PM
      Part3 >we are to be very careful. Christ Law is Not the 10’Comman’t or anything that Moses Obligated on the People.> It’s “A New Covenant for those called to be Saints. It’s about having the Holy Spirit always; which will teach you all truth. Matt.28:20 Christ said teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I (Jesus) have commanded. Not Moses! If not, what was the point of Christ coming? See Gal.2:21 >if righteousness came by Law Christ died in vain which makes perfect sense. God Bless.
      
      
  • Re: Who or what are Saints?:  Pastor Faith - 10/12/2011 9:36:02 AM
    The fact is that Law is based on the principle of precedent; and with Christ establishing a new covenant it clearly discards the old; or else it would not be called “NEW COVENANT”> see Heb 8:13 >So what does that New covenant entail? What did Christ come to establish or preached? > The message Of the Gospel> the good news of the Kingdom of Heaven, Salvation for all men through faith and love. See Matt 9:35 & Matt 24:14, Romans 10:9, Gal 5:14 [Part 2]
    
    
  • Re: Who or what are Saints?:  Pastor Faith - 10/12/2011 9:35:20 AM
    Under the “Old Covenant” only Jews & compatibles were marked as Children of God; through physical Circumcision, keeping of Commandments, Statutes, Precepts and Laws. However, with this new covenant, God’s Children are marked through Sanctification of heart, belief by faith in Christ Jesus, having the Holy Spirit in you. See 1Cor 1: 2 > and through adoption see Eph.1:5 [Part3]
    
    
  • Re: Who or what are Saints?:  Pastor Faith - 10/12/2011 9:34:39 AM
    Hence, If any man be in Christ he is a New Creation 2 Cor.5:17 > and what Creation has he become? “A SAINT” > see 1 Cor.1:2 > Not because of our works, but due to Christ's mercies> see Titus 3:5> Therefore in this New Covenant a Saint is neither Jew nor Gentile, male or female; but rather one who has put on Christ. See Gal.3:27-29 [part 4]
    
    
  • Re: Who or what are Saints?:  Pastor Faith - 10/12/2011 9:33:48 AM
    Now if we worship God in Spirit and truth, even now, we are already considered part of the Heavenly fold; see 1John 3:2 & Romans 8:14> moreover, the Kingdom of God is within us .Luke 17:21> Our lives are hid with Christ in God; see Col.3:1-4> and if Christ now sits in Heavenly places, then so do we; through him. Although death may destroy our physical bodies; but we know, and are assured that it’s only a process; because flesh and blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom, as 1cor. 15:50> we must all die to appear in God’s physical presents. Although some of us may not see death 1Cor. 15:51 [Part 5]
    
    
  • Re: Who or what are Saints?:  Pastor Faith - 10/12/2011 9:33:03 AM
    So we conclude based on the Scriptures; that a Saint can be one both in Flesh and Spirit. The change has already taken place; once one is in Christ Jesus. The Caterpillar has become a butterfly through faith> anyone has further questions bring it on! God bless xx
    
    

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• Bible Lesson:   Bimark Kiplangat - 10/16/2011 11:36:29 AM
  Thanks to Bible lesson editor and Elder Joule. I posted a note last week on Thursday concerning the bible lesson change. For me and our local church in Nairobi Kenya, i had printed out the new lesson. However, i see now again the lesson meant for last sabbath was the previous lesson. i.e before it was changed. Though we didn't learn this lesson, am happy because most of the saints who already had the whole-year hard copies learn t the same. I thank you very much for the reverse of that change. Regards, Bismark Be Blessed.
  
  

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• Yes! We are likely to go to heaven> conclusion:   Pastor Faith - 9/26/2011 12:48:25 PM
  It is absolutely appalling to attempt defending the indefensible; only for church sake. How can a butterfly be called a caterpillar? Or a man a Saint? >From Genesis; God made the point to Moses that “NO MAN! [Flesh & blood] can see him and live”; > to Christ confirming NO Man [Flesh &Blood] has gone to Heaven; > which is obvious as he explained that change to Nicodemus, as well as being like Angels in heaven in John.> to Paul confirming “Flesh &Blood cannot inherit God’s Kingdom”. To Revelation asserting saints gathered around the throne in heaven; to> Jude confirming God coming with thousands of saints.> It is obvious these findings has created lasting embarrassment to the COG7th day. For that I apologise; but i cannot change the scriptures! Sorry!!! Part 1 0f 2
  
  
  • Re: Yes! We are likely to go to heaven> conclus:  Gideon - 10/7/2011 7:07:43 PM
    It is obvious that you are not here to try to learn or teach anything. What teacher always responds in an offensive manner with negative things to say? Not that you are teaching me, because you have yet to prove that we are going to heaven. The scripture says, "And the servant of the Lord must not strive; but be gentle unto all men, apt to teach, patient". Philipians 4:21 says, "Salute every saint in Christ Jesus. The brethren which are with me greet you." So let me get this straight...when Paul told them to salute the saints, were they to go to heaven to salute the saints? I think you misunderstood the meaning of the word saint. I really hope you pay close attention to 2 Timothy 2:16-18, "16 But shun profane and vain babblings: for they will increase unto more ungodliness. 17 And their word will eat as doth a canker: of whom is Hymenaeus and Philetus; 18 Who concerning the truth have erred, saying that the resurrection is past already; and overthrow the faith of some."
    
    
    • Re: Yes! We are likely to go to heaven> conclus:  Pastor Faith - 10/8/2011 4:31:14 AM
      Bro. Gideon, you are a good man and a wonderful husband. I’m sure. Most of all you fear God and is a true believer in Christ Jesus. I must admit however, that my appetite for the topic is a bit exhausted, given so many Balaam compartibles in the church. Let’s just say, you have won! Let not strife come between us; because we are brethren and forever will be. So you can take all the green pasture; I am contented with the desert. I must also apologies for ruffling both you and the church’s feathers. Please forgive me! Let peace reign. Such matters are not important for salvation. Thanks for participating. God bless.
      
      
      • Re: Yes! We are likely to go to heaven> conclus:  Gideon - 10/14/2011 7:28:58 PM
        Pastor Faith, your response is filled with emptiness and I can tell it was not genuine. You try to polish it so readers can have a good impression of you while indirectly making it seem like I am the bad one. You say you are exausted and i win. Wow, it is not about winning...it is about defending truth and the word of God. Some of your comments once again do not make sense. Baalam compartibles, you giving me the pasture and you taking the desert, such matters are not important for salvation.
        
        
        • Re: Yes! We are likely to go to heaven> conclus:  Pastor Faith - 10/15/2011 4:25:31 AM
          Bro. Gideon, Please Know and understand! Unlike other websites, Truth is something you must prove here biblically. On the topic, both you & the church have failed! Maybe, you have a personal ambition to become a Deacon or Pastor; and you really do not want to rock the boat. That I can understand! But to try keeping the brethren in ignorance is unreasonable. If you feel my responses are empty, you have a right to your opinion! Please, pray for me; call the whole church on fasting for me. Read these scriptures Matt5:25 & Matt5:44 > If you are in Christ, you will understand why I made peace. Again you have won! COG7thday always wins! No other way! Remember? God bless
          
          
  • Re: Yes! We are likely to go to heaven> conclus:  Gideon - 9/28/2011 1:14:11 PM
    I am sorry, but your post makes absolutely no sense. And I don't appreciate you saying that me and members of the COG 7th Day are not humble, because we do not interpret the scriptures the way you do. If you're going to take Christ's words, don't take piece, and leave the other words out. John 3:13 And no man hath ascended up to heaven, but he that came down from heaven, [even] the Son of man which is in heaven. The scriptures plainly says, "BUT HE THAT CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN". Did Enoch come from heaven? Did Elijah come from heaven? The verse says, BUT HE THAT CAME DOWN FROM HEAVEN. It didn't say "THEM" which came down from heaven. The only MAN whoever ascended into heaven is our Lord Jesus Christ. Yes, Jesus had to come in flesh as a MAN. He was not EVER called a saint. He came as a man to show us that he was tempted in all points, as we are, and yet remained without sin. 1 Timothy 2:5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the MAN Christ Jesus. Praise God!
    
    
    • Re: Yes! We are likely to go to heaven> conclus:  Pastor Faith - 9/29/2011 2:39:09 PM
      Why oh why do you insist that the World see your open arrogance and lack of understanding? Based on your post, the question is, when Christ returned to heaven after his resurrection; was he still a man? (Flesh &Blood?) The answer is NO! Exactly! All Christ’s statement indicated is that he is the “only human” [Flesh &Blood] to have ever been in Heaven. Not that he was there in the Flesh, but as we know, THE WORD WAS MADE FLESH. But he returned a sprit; like an angel. Which is exactly what happened to Elijah!> He went to heaven as the scriptures boldly noted;no longer was he a human being, but was transformed like an angel. Which is exactly what will happen to all believers in Christ; we shall all be changed. Heaven bond! See you there! God bless x
      
      
  • Re: Yes! We are likely to go to heaven> conclus:  Pastor Faith - 9/26/2011 12:48:58 PM
    Part 2> Honestly, I never expected Bro. Gideon, Head Pastor or any others in authority to even concede defeat;> because it’s not in the Church’s DNA to show humility. They are so right, even when they are worng. What is important however, is that New Light has come into the World; and upon the evidence published based on the scriptures, every man can be persuaded in his own mind. No more! can COG7th day come with these feeble explanation of scripture pretending to claim authority. Those days are numbered! Freedom to the people! God bless
    
    

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• Bible Lessons:   Bimark Kiplangat - 10/14/2011 12:34:19 PM
  We normally get a full-year hard copies of Bible Lessons. The changes which are always made on the way, do not reach most of our saints especially who don't have access to Internets. Don't you think at some point we teach/learn different lesson in church at the same sabbath? Can someone reach for me the bible lesson editor on this issue. What's your take on this? Thanks to everyone.
  
  

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• Question:   Peace - 9/22/2011 8:10:52 AM
  Calvary greeting to you all in the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. please i want to know when the feast of tabernacle is taking place. i hard is Oct 12th 2011 but i want to confirm if is true. thank you yours in the Lord Sis Peace
  
  
  • Re: Question:  Ellis - 9/23/2011 8:55:16 PM
    Greetings to all in the name of our Lord and Master, Jesus Christ. Sis. Peace, welcome to our message board. Our branch of the COG 7th day does not believe that the Feast Days are binding on God's children today. However, there are other branches of the COG 7th day that do keep the Seven Feasts. You can view them at this link, it should have the info you're looking for: 7thday.web.officelive.com. Let me know if you have any questions on our stance on this subject. Thanks and God Bless!!
    
    

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